House Rules Committee Still Hasn't Scheduled Health Care Markup

by: Chris Bowers

Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 16:32


Before a piece of legislation can be sent to the House floor for debate and amendments, it must be cleared through the House Rules committee.  This is important, because as of this writing, the committee has still not scheduled a markup for H.R. 3962--aka, the health care reform bill.

In fact, according to its website, tomorrow the committee is scheduled to mark-up a different piece of legislation, H.R. 3639, the Expedited CARD Reform for Consumers Act of 2009.

This calls into question reports that the House will be voting on the health care bill as early as Thursday.  Given that the Speaker has promised House members 72 hours to read the bill before a vote, and give that Wednesday is now the earliest the Committee on Rules could finish with the health care bill, then the earliest that the House could possibly vote on health care reform is now Saturday.

The holdup is likely due to continued negotiations over what amendments, if any, will be allowed on the floor of the House. These fights include, but are not limited to, the following:

  1. Representative Stupak (D-MI) is trying to get a vote on an amendment to disallow any health care plans in the new insurance exchange from covering abortion procedures.  The Democratic leadership does not want this amendment to come to a vote, because they believe it would pass.  Further, if it passes, it would likely kill the entire bill, as numerous pro-choice Representatives would vote against it.  Given that the leadership is already struggling to find 218, they afford any further defections.

    Since Stupak knows the leadership will never allow such an amendment freely, he is attempting to round-up enough Democrats to vote against the "motion to recommit" on the health care bill unless the amendment is allowed a vote.

  2. Representative Grijalva (D-AZ) is attempting to get a vote on an amendment to add the Medicare +5% public option back into the bill. For several months, Grijalva had been organizing members of the Progressive Caucus to vote against the health care bill unless it had this form of public option.  Now, however, he just seems to be pushing for an amendment, and is not offering direct threats to block the entire bill:

    "You know, there's a lot of pressure right now--take one for the team, take one for the administration--and I think that pressure will come to bear, and they'll probably end up with 218. I'm not sure how I'm gonna vote," Grijalva said. "I'm leaning no, and that's a direction--I'm not ready to jump on the bandwagon."

  3. Representative Weiner (D-NY) is looking to get a vote on an amendment to replace the entire health care reform package with H.R. 676, Medicare for All (aka, single-payer). This was an amendment promised to Representative Weiner in exchange for allowing the health care bill clear the Energy and Commerce committee back in July.  Representative Peter Welch (D-VT), claims that single-payer has over 100 supporters at this point.

    However, last Thursday, Speaker Pelosi told me that it is not possible to have a piece of legislation voted on unless it was scored by the CBO, and H.R. 676 has not been scored by the CBO. So, it doesn't look like this promise is going to be kept.

Given Grijalva's new tone, Stupak is now the main delay in the legislation.  It is important to remember that his coalition to block the bill includes not only anti-choice Democrats, but also the entire Republican House caucus, and a couple dozen Democrats who are opposed to the bill for reasons that have nothing to do with abortion.  Stupak appears to be the final hurdle for the leadership to clear, and at this point we can assume any delay is because the leadership has not yet removed his roadblock.
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Part of me hopes Stupak succeeds (4.00 / 2)

  The health-care bills being proffered by both the House and Senate are so timid, so toothless, and so dubious in their potential to make a positive impact on Americans' lives that maybe it wouldn't be a bad thing if the whole thing collapsed. No reform is better than phony reform.

 Maybe the White House might learn a valuable lesson here. A dramatic health-care failure, of course, will destroy the Democrats next year -- but so would the weak, industry-friendly proposals that are being passed on as "reform". I remain unconvinced that the Obama administration was ever all that committed to REAL health-care reform. Obama talks the talk, but that's all he does.

 I've come to the point where the only reason remaining to root for a bill to pass is to maintain the administration's ability to get good legislation through in the year they still have a majority. But it's not like their record in other departments is all that sterling anyway.

 Only the Democrats can parlay majorities in both chambers into a no-win situation. Way to go, Rahm...  

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn


I don't think there's any way around it (4.00 / 2)
The process has so far been: Progressive caucus promises to push for strong reforms and refuse to cave. The strong reforms are watered down, because leadership claims not to have the votes. Progressive caucus lowers its standards and says they don't want to be the ones to get in the way of health care reform. As a result the watered-down reforms are watered down even further. Lather, rinse, repeat until nothing is left of the original proposals.

This just can't continue. We must decide whether we want good policy, or whether we just want to declare victory by passing a meaningless piece of paper.


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Right now, it's the rule, not the motion to recommit (0.00 / 0)
To clarify: Stupak's current threat is that he and his people will vote against the rule.

No rule, no bill.

(Of course - as with so many of these manoeuvers - the leadership can alway try again. But, unless they can buy off enough Stupaks with something that won't leak Prog votes, that would be both futile and suggestive of incompetence.)

If the rule passes, then Stupak can try the motion to recommit.

Presumably, the leadership have long realised their vulnerability on abortion. Perhaps they miscounted; perhaps Stupak is still way short. More likely, since they knew there was nothing they could give on the abortion issue, they decided to take the risk.  


the progressive block conceeded? already? (0.00 / 0)
Representative Grijalva (D-AZ) is attempting to get a vote on an amendment to add the Medicare +5% public option back into the bill. For several months, Grijalva had been organizing members of the Progressive Caucus to vote against the health care bill unless it had this form of public option.  Now, however, he just seems to be pushing for an amendment, and is not offering direct threats to block the entire bill

over $400,000 was raised in support of the promise to block the bill. wtf? they are going to cave? are the donors going to get their money back?


What about the Kucinich amendment? (4.00 / 1)







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