Republicans Fall To Third-Party Status Among Young Voters

by: Chris Bowers

Wed Oct 24, 2007 at 12:23


The future has little to do with Republicans (emphasis in original):

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that Colbert is preferred by 13% of voters as an independent candidate challenging Democrat Hillary Clinton  and Republican Rudy Giuliani. The survey was conducted shortly after Colbert's surprise announcement that he is lusting for the Oval Office.

The result is similar when Fred Thompson is the Republican in the three-way race. With Thompson as the GOP candidate, Colbert earns 12% of the vote.(…)

Colbert does particularly well with the younger voters most likely to be watching his show and therefore most aware of his myriad presidential-like qualities. In the match-up with Giuliani and Clinton, Colbert draws 28% of likely voters aged 18-29. He draws 31% of that cohort when his foes are Thompson and Clinton. In both match-ups, Colbert has more support with young voters than the GOP candidate.

Republicans have lost an entire generation, which also happens to be the largest generation in American history. Now, a satire of Republicans is more popular among young voters than Republicans themselves, even when a Democrat is included in the polling. It is difficult to think of a stronger repudiation of Republicans than that.

The future is Democratic. The struggle is over whether or not it will be progressive.

Chris Bowers :: Republicans Fall To Third-Party Status Among Young Voters

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The future maybe... the election who knows? (0.00 / 0)
The majority might be democratic. But I wonder if Republicans will still keep winning/stealing elections.

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Way too funny (0.00 / 0)
I didn't know that that many potential conservative voters were Colbert watchers.  I would think that most of his audience is pretty liberal.  Still its seems like he doesn't bleed as much support from Hilary as he does from the GOPers.

Is there other third party polling, it may be that those are just dissatisfied voters rather than Colbert fans.

I have been wondering what his effect on the SC primary will be if he does indeed get his name on the ballot.  My guess is that he would do pretty well on both sides of the aisle as an amusing vote/ protest vote against their current choices.

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Also ... (0.00 / 0)
It is difficult to think of a stronger repudiation of Democrats than that.

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Not that hard (0.00 / 0)
Clinton could be losing to Colbert. She isn't.

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Right up there with the last slogan (4.00 / 2)
Not only is Clinton "not notably worse than her opponents", she would not lose an election to Stephen Colbert.

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Oh Please! (0.00 / 0)
I don't know which to laugh at more:

* That people would take these poll numbers regarding Colbert seriously

* or the possibility of that many 18-29 year olds are really that un-serious about politics

* or that Rasmussen would even poll such nonsense.

The scary thing is that all three are probably true.


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Not a pro-Democratic wave (0.00 / 0)
rather anti-Republican.

Put Ron Paul in the poll and see very different results.

I looked at over 1,000 Wisconsin personal Myspace pages a month ago, saw a lot with both Paul and either Kucinich or Gravel on "top friends."

A lot of these go 3d Party if the nominees are conventional.




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Losing But Not Lost (0.00 / 0)
You say that the "Republicans have lost an entire generation" of voters.  I would suggest that the Rs are "losing" these voters, not that they are "lost."  To me, two things must take place for a realignment among a significan section of the electorate: (1) bad policy which leads to a loss of governing power; and (2) the newly elected party performs better.  We know the first condition has happened. Thus, the horrible poll results.  What I fear is that HRC will win and will remain in Iraq and this, along with her other center right policies, will open this generation back to possible recruitment from the GOP.

Cart, horse (0.00 / 0)
The future is Democratic. The struggle is over whether or not it will be progressive.

I think you have it backwards. The future requires progressive thought and action - peak oil, climate change, aging boomers, globalized economy will all require new bodies of thought and deed to cope with, capitalize on or work to individual advantage. Rapid societal, social and climate change demand rapid responses. Will either of the traditional parties keep up? After a week of Obama stumbles and Clinton shenanigans and the simpering idiocy of the Republican dwarf posse, I'm not so sure - push someone to the limit, and he or she reverts to tried & true. The future challenges to America, Earth and humans may have little reward or regard for any such risk-averse response.


Why bother with elections? (0.00 / 0)
Let's just hold auditions for the role of President.

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One step forward, two steps back (0.00 / 0)
The current Democratic front runners will likely get us one step forward after the three steps we took backwards under Bush II. Bill Clinton took us one step forward after the two steps we lost under Reagan and Bush I.  It is just hard to look at this accounting and think that it is somehow silly that our youth are willing to vote for a comedian.  Our country is moving inevitably backwards. 

So what? (0.00 / 0)
Chuck Norris would probably destroy both Clinton and Guiliani in such a poll.  It doesn't prove anything -- it would be foolish to draw any sort of conclusion from it.  Perhaps some Colbert viewers actually believe him to be ultra-conservative; perhaps some view him as more liberal than Clinton; perhaps some disregard politics in general.  Who knows?

At the risk of seeming foolish ... (4.00 / 1)
I think it shows a lot of progressives aren't happy with Hillary.  They may be resigned to voting for her next year, but given the opportunity to thumb (or other digit) their noses at her.  Ever hear of a protest vote?

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Yes, I have (0.00 / 0)
But do you actually believe that more people in that age bracket will vote for Colbert than for the Republican candidate in a general election?  It is possible that those who supported Colbert in this poll are dissatisfied progressives; however, that is not a safe conclusion to draw from the facts.  It may just be that they (conservatives and liberals alike) have a higher opinion of Colbert than a politician -- again, there's simply not enough information to draw a reliable conclusion. 

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higher opinion of Colbert than Hillary (0.00 / 0)
But do you actually believe that more people in that age bracket will vote for Colbert than for the Republican candidate in a general election?

Of course not.  Didn't you read my post?

By the way, do you really believe that none of the Colbert voters were angry progressives?

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People trying to be funny (0.00 / 0)
If they realize that Colbert is a comedian playing a satirical character on TV, this pretty much makes the "poll" look like an extension of that joke (intentionally, or not) and some proportion of those questioned will be tempted to "play along" and cite Colbert as their choice.

IF he is successful AND gets his name on the ballot - it would be VERY DIFFICULT not to vote for him (I speak for myself, of course) because I would not want to be responsible for ruining his punchline.

BTW: On Meet The Press last Sunday, he offered a trade: his putative convention delegate for a speech at the convention.

I suggest the Democrats take that offer and invite him to "perform" at the convention - or, at least, give him some top-tier partisans to interview during the show.  Conventions are about partying and celebration nowadays - do it up big.


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Libertarians (0.00 / 0)
I think this is the Republican libertarian vote.

They can't bring themselves to vote Dem., and they think the problem with the Rep. field is the people running. They cannot recognize that these people represent how the libertarian philosophy plays out.

Someone like Colbert is perfect for them, because they don't know what he really believes.


Fake Libertarian VS Real Thing (0.00 / 0)
Stephen Colbert VS Ron Paul

Let's not forget that Colbert is playing a character on a satirical comedy show.  I don't know about you, but generally, I don't find Libertarians all that funny.

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