WV poll #'s (4.00 / 1)

Chris -- I've got some WV poll numbers for you. The original story seems to be offline, but some of the figures were excerpted in this West Virginia Blue diary. (Maybe you can find more in Lexis/Nexis?)

Clinton 42
Guiliani 26
Undecided 22

The poll was commissioned by MetroNews, the media company owned by Raese, the Republican who ran against Byrd last cycle. Apparently, his numbers were so low against Rockefeller in this polling that he's decided not to waste any more of his money self-funding another pointless race. :-)

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by: WVaBlue @ Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 04:54:18 AM CDT

Cool (4.00 / 1)

Will update with my next map!

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by: Chris Bowers @ Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 10:35:51 AM CDT

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Oh Chris! The World Is Only Flat (0.00 / 0)

because Bill Clinton let al Qaeda flatten the Twin Towers.

Have you learned nothing from The Path to 9/11???

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"

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by: Paul Rosenberg @ Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 06:56:46 AM CDT

Miss him already (0.00 / 0)

I am actually glad they released it, however, because something this utterly mega-stupid puts to rest any fears I had of Giuliani winning the Republican nomination.

Au contraire, mon ami - I am (was?) looking forward to a Giuliani nomination. Months of ensuing laughter on the late-night talk shows, endless riffs on SNL, and enough material to challenge even Jon Stewart. Everything that is wrong with the war-mongers is embodied in the Giuliani campaign, and exposing that to the white-hot blinding brilliance of a presidential election would be justice indeed.

ps To the poster with the embedded video above: go away. Not everyone has unlimited bandwidth to load running videos that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

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by: GuyFromOhio @ Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 08:05:35 AM CDT

Thank you, Moderating deity <eom> (0.00 / 0)

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by: GuyFromOhio @ Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 13:10:43 PM CDT

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NC Electoral Apportionment (0.00 / 0)

"(Note: the seeming four point incongruence comes from the new election law in North Carolina that would give at least four votes to the Democratic nominee.)"

I thought NC shot down this law. Man, I have got to read the local papers more.

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by: alteran @ Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 08:05:48 AM CDT

I don't know if it is that stupid (0.00 / 0)

At least, not as long as the Giuliani campaign actually believes it.  What exactly do you expect them to say, "We have no chance of winning, but you should vote for us anyways?"  They need to have an optimistic definition of a swing state as one they have a shot of winning if everything goes perfect for them and Hillary Clinton gets bogged down in some weird, harmful scandal.

And on the flip side, Democrats are bad at this sort of salesmanship in campaigns.

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by: Anthony de Jesus @ Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 08:17:00 AM CDT

What is Swing (0.00 / 0)

So the Giuliani campaign chooses a value for swinging that puts a lot of what you classify as blue states in the purple category.  This isn't a stupid map, it is smart propaganda.  So what if  they have to define swing at 5% or 10% if it lets them make that map, then its good propaganda.

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by: Luam @ Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 08:20:27 AM CDT

Propaganda has to seem vaguely credible (0.00 / 0)

Except that a recent poll had Giuliani losing New York to Clinton by about 25 points. Besides, if that was the case he'd have to mark most of the red states as also being swing.

If it were a little bit less moronically optimistic, then it might be good propaganda. As it is, Giuliani is just overflowing with shit.

And strategising badly. If he showed the maps versus Obama and Edwards he could get away with classifying a lot more of blue states as swing.

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by: Englishlefty @ Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 11:02:17 AM CDT

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Awesome title, BTW (0.00 / 0)

Always good to have a Monte Python reference in politics.

Actually, I guess I should say, an INTENTIONAL Monte Python reference-- lord knows there's a lot of accidental satire in politics these days.

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by: alteran @ Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 08:43:54 AM CDT

Well, I'm Sure That Dick Cheney (0.00 / 0)

thought it was really funny brining back the Spanish Inquisition, just when we least expected it.  And that was as intentional as all get out.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"

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by: Paul Rosenberg @ Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 11:32:14 AM CDT

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