Dynasties and Progressivism

by: Chris Bowers

Mon Nov 19, 2007 at 12:59


One of the ideas that popped into my head as I wrote the article just below this one is whether or not a second Clinton presidency, which would result in a Clinton political dynasty of sorts, would be a direct anathema to progressivism. Almost no matter how you look at them, and no matter how progressive or not the individual members might be, political dynasties cannot be considered "progressive." For hereditary ruling classes to receive privilege based on pedigree is actually one of the least progressive things I can think of. I actually always thought of the second Bush presidency, secured through conservative institutions in the 2000 primary and through a minority vote in the 2000 general election, as about as perfect an example of conservatism as one could ever find in a contemporary American context. Even though his father's presidency was rejected by the public and even though the will of the people was against him, the son of a former president became president anyway, and promptly proceeded to secure as much power for himself as power. How very aristocratic.

Of course, the Bush's are not the only example of a Presidential dynasty in America. Famously, the two most popular progressive presidents of the first half of the twentieth century were both named Roosevelt. Also, multiple Kennedy's ran for President, and probably would have won, had it not been for assassinations. Had I been at least 27 years older, I would have had not problem voting for RFK in the primaries, for example. Also, it is not exactly as though the Clinton's come from a wealthy family. Bill Clinton grew up in a single parent home in Arkansas and went to the local public school, for crying out loud. That is hardly the stuff of aristocracy and privileged pedigrees. Further, Hillary Clinton would be the first woman President, and women are by far the largest demographic group in the United States to never have a representative in the Presidency. That would quite obviously, at least in one way, be progress. Outside of Kucinich and Edwards, Hillary Clinton is also the only candidate who uses the term progressive on a regular basis, and I'm pretty sure that she is the only candidate to reference the progressive movement. Finally, even if Clinton becomes President, it will only last either four or eight years. So, barring a run by Chelsea Clinton, the line ends even before my 11 year old niece graduates from college.

Still, the idea of a Clinton dynasty feels fundamentally unprogressive to me in a way that Hillary Clinton herself can do nothing to avoid. Even though they were both from wealthy families, the two Roosevelt were not related from within their nuclear families ala the Kennedys, Bushes, and Clintons. Also, when it came to RFK and later Ted Kennedy, the original Kennedy presidency, which had captured the imagination of progressives on his election, had been unjustly cut short by murder. And, as I wrote above, I expect this sort of thing from conservatives, not self-identified progressives.  Are we really making progress if we elect the wife of a former President? In a very real way, isn't that idealizing the past in the same way that conservatives often do? I actually think that one of the main reasons Barack Obama at least started out with a lead within the progressive wing of the party is that while both Clinton and Obama appear as a promise of demographic and cultural progress in the Presidency, Obama was the first choice because he didn't have any of the dynasty baggage. An Obama Presidency would be more progressive from an identity standpoint than a Clinton Presidency not because African-Americans have historically faced more obstacles in the United States than women (certainly a debateable topic), but simply because his position as a Presidential candidate was viewed as having been achieved through more progressive means than either Clinton or any other Democratic candidate (I know that Richardson, Edwards and Kucinich supporters might have disagreements on this front, but since that isn't the main thurst of this piece, let's leave them aside for now).

If Clinton wins the nomination, I imagine it will be difficult for some progressives to get excited about a dynasty candidate in the general election. Dynasties and progressivism simply don't mix very well. One of my favorite parts of the Constitution, if not my absolute favorite part, is the section outlawing hereditary titles in America. Even as a sports fan, I find dynasties both boring and irritating. It is hard for me to watch any movies that feature royalty or nobility and portray the nobles in a positive light (although I admit to liking both the first Elizabeth and Marie Antoinette). It just doesn't feel right. Power should not be fixed on the basis of familial units. That just isn't very progressive.

I don't really know what to say beyond this point, because as I noted there isn't anything that Hillary Clinton can do about this. However, based on the post I wrote earlier today, I felt that this was still something worth saying.
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Debateable? (4.00 / 1)
I am pretty sure slavery trumps everything else in the obstacle debate.

No doubt (0.00 / 0)
But Shirley Chisholm once famously remarked that she felt more oppressed because she was a woman than because she was black.

Basically, I just didn't want to stray into an argument that was somewhat to the side of the main point by taking sides on that one.

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Primary Objection (4.00 / 2)
Chris has just articulated what I find is the most important objection I have to a Hilary presidency.  This is America and we should avoid the tendency towards dynastic politics.  It is undemocratic, threatens our institutions and runs contrary to the spirit of the term term tradition that was established by George Washington.

It is particularly dangerous at this point, since we are following another dynastic presidency.  If we do elect Hilary Clinton in 2008 and she is re-elected, then by 2016 we will have had 28 years of trading the presidency between two nuclear families.  Voters who are in their mid-thirties will not be able to remember a time when a Bush nor a Clinton was president.  Those less than  would not have participated in an election for president where one of them was not elected unless they are over 40.  Who will those voters consider when they wonder who should be president next?  Jeb? Chelsea? Jenna?

I think that supporting our Democracy and our progressive traditions are of primary concern for Americans.  Particularly now, when we have had a series of bitterly contested elections, and only recently one which was decided by the Supreme Court, including some who were appointed by the winner's father.

America is ready for a woman to be president, and I certainly hope that we will have one soon.  It would be best however to have a first woman president who got there without her husband being president first.  There are many powerful women governors and senators in this country.  Hilary is one of them, and is very capable.  If she had never married Bill or if he had spent his career supporting her political ambitions Hilary would very well have a history of accomplishment holding her own elected positions and independently pushing her own agenda.  It would be a very bad precedent for the first woman president to get there in part due to her work supporting her husbands political career and her service as first lady.

There are other reasons that I oppose Hilary in both style and policy, but this is the main reason that I cannot in good conscience support her in a primary election.  I do not think that another eight years of political dynasty, with one family securing the levers of Democratic power would be good for America or good for progressive.

My job is not to represent Washington to you, but to represent you to Washington- Obama
Philly for Obama


Great minds run together? (0.00 / 0)
Guess what Senator Hope is talking about today?

Peace, Health and Prosperity for Everyone.

Probably the least Progressive reason to oppose Hillary (4.00 / 2)
is that her husband once held office.  The last time I checked, there was nothing in the Progressive's manual that said you are excluded from doing something that another member of your family has done previously.

There is a VAST difference between the dynasty of the French monarchy, for example, and any American political dynasty.  For one thing, elections have to be won to take power.  Whatever screwed up things happened in 2000 (and there were a ton of them) there was an election. 

What stopped the Kennedy's was RFK's assassination and Teddy's drunk driving.  But Teddy has been a steadfast and dependable vote for liberal causes.  The Kennedys are hardly the first family to have multiple members in office.  Go back to the Adams' and you have a great example of a father and son who dedicated themselves to furthering this country and both did a pretty bang-up job of it - even if they did have feet of clay.

What of the La Follette family of Wisconsin?  The Carnahan family in Missouri?  Are the un-Progressive because of their particular family heritage?

I don't really care for Hillary and have been waiting for someone to prove that they are a better candidate than she is.  So far, it just hasn't happened.  At this point, I doubt that it will.  For what it's worth, I haven't heard anyone saying they will vote for Hillary because of Bill - but that may underlie a lot of her support.  But we aren't talking about Eva Peron who had no political experience or support of her own.  We're talking about a successful woman who has built her own political career aside from her husband's.

There are dozens of reasons not to like Hillary - I could reel off a score or more without drawing breath or thinking hard - but this should be the last reason any thinking person would come up with to oppose her, or anyone else.


Dynasties (0.00 / 0)
Most people supporting Hillary think that they are getting Bill back in the whitehouse.

So I dis-agree with xpatriated Texan.

I cannot vote for a candidate that has neo-con tendencies like Hillary Clinton:

1. Vited for the AUF did not read the NIE

2. vOTED FOR THE kyl/Lieberman resolution giving Bush an excuse to strike Iran militarily


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Evidence? (0.00 / 0)
Most people supporting Hillary think that they are getting Bill back in the whitehouse.

or is this just opinion?


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Don't Forget Bush Sr's Years as VP (0.00 / 0)
It isn't a reason not to like Hillary. But it is a reason to prefer someone other than Hillary Clinton as president.

Let's also not forget George H.W. Bush's years in the White House as the Vice President starting in 1981. So if Hillary wins two terms in office, that's 36 years of Bush or Clinton dynastic influence in the White House. That's nearly two generations!

Sounds like a contested monarchy to me.


Not even a close comparison (0.00 / 0)
George Bush Jr. has one accomplishment in his entire life before being handed the Texas Governorship: he successfully lobbied for the Texas Rangers baseball team to get them a tax funded stadium. So his only accomplishment was that of a lobbyist. He couldn't even done that without daddy's connections.

Hillary Clinton is Bill's wife. There is no hereditary connection there. She has her own accomplishments. Furthermore, she has made her husband's political career more successful because she is a contributing member of the Clinton team. If Hillary didn't marry Bill Clinton, raise a child, and dedicate much of her energy to Bill's political career I don't doubt that she could have been a governor and eventually a presidential contender on her own. Her merits and skill are undeniable.

John McCain would love to send your kids to war.


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