Common Cause Responds

by: Matt Stoller

Wed Feb 27, 2008 at 08:00


Common Cause Communications Director Mary Boyle emailed me this response to my post criticizing her group for refusing to ask McCain to obey the law.

After reading your rant about what you describe as Common Cause's "remarkable legacy of failure," my first reaction is to suggest that you might want to talk to your doctor about upping your meds.

Most of your post seems to reflect a basic disagreement over whether Common Cause should be a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Democratic Party, or of the progressive movement, or of the lefty blogosphere.  We were founded by John Gardner, a Republican who served in the Johnson administration, and we have always been proud of our bipartisanship and independence.  We do not believe that either major political party is free from corruption or has a monopoly on good government as a political issue. We believe Americans want a change away from partisan gridlock.

We are proud to have Jim Leach as our new board chairman. This is a man who, while in Congress, stayed away from partisan confrontations and concentrated on working in a bipartisan manner on the process issues that define Common Cause. He is an environmentalist who lost his 2006 race in part because he refused to allow anti-gay literature the National Republican Congressional Committee wanted to distribute.

At a minimum, you cannot possibly expect to be taken seriously when you accuse us of helping John McCain "evade responsibility for the Keating 5 scandal" when Common Cause filed the original ethics compliant against the Keating 5.  Common Cause has limited resources, and the fact that we have not unleashed a legal and public relations attack on every politician you happen to find offensive (Joe Lieberman, Al Wynn, John McCain, etc.) does not make us prisoners of a blind faith in non-partisanship.  In fact, we often -- but not always -- find ourselves as coalition partners with some of the very groups who meet with your approval, such as MoveOn.  We spent a great deal of time, energy, and money working to draw public attention to the DeLay scandal, among others, and if you are going to call us "losers" it would be nice if you showed some familiarity with the range of projects we have taken on in recent years.

As for our organization "remaining silent" during the "latest ridiculous episode," apparently referring to McCain and public financing, I would direct you to work we did in Iowa and New Hampshire, working with dozens of activists to get the candidates to sign a pledge committing to support full public financing for congressional campaigns-not only did we get several major candidates on the record, but we ran full page ads in the largest papers in Iowa and all of the daily newspapers in New Hampshire listing who had signed on and who had not. McCain and his photo were clearly in the "not signed on camp."  (And we should note that, after the Iowa ad ran, both Hillary Clinton and Bill Richardson promptly returned a signed pledge.)

Last week Common Cause, Public Campaign and Public Citizen released a document detailing the shortfall of all three major presidential candidates when it comes to money in politics and noting the lack of support McCain has shown thus far for either congressional or presidential public financing reform. We were the leaders to pass full, statewide "Clean Elections" in Connecticut and are currently working in 18 states to pass state-level public financing reforms.

I don't have the time to type out all of the work Common Cause has done in nearly 40 years of its proud history to hold people in power accountable, so I refer you here: http://www.commoncause.org/sit...

Matt Stoller :: Common Cause Responds

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Leaving aside the substance of the McCain issue (4.00 / 1)
Leach did not lose because he refused to allow the NRCC to distribute anti-equality literature.  He lost because he was a Republican congressman and the Republican Congress marched in complete and entire lockstep with President Bush on everything, particularly the war.  All the time, people like to suggest ridiculous reasons why Democrats won control of Congress in 2006--Republicans spent too much money, they weren't tough enough on undocumented immigrants, evidently that there wasn't enough anti-equality literature distributed--when there is a very obvious and much more logical reason why it happened.  

This is not to criticize Jim Leach, who actually did many good things in Congress, but, at some point, making excuses to try and explain what happened in 2006 to fit with your worldview is absurd.  

John McCain


Nonetheles, (4.00 / 1)
it is relatively honorable to refuse to send out disgusting literature that might help you in your re-election campaign.  Leach is a decent guy, and didn't deserve Matt's ridiculous attack on him, which seems premised on the idea that it's entirely outrageous for a nonpartisan organization to appoint any prominent Republican to any position.

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er...did I notice that she did not address the current McCain (0.00 / 0)
issue with wanting to opt out of public financing after he secured a loan with the funds that he would get from public financing...or is it too early in the morning. The link to the website and all their "accomplishments" rings kinda hollow with her inability to address the current issue at hand.  Regardless of their track record...or should they just be given a free pass because of their track record.

This really ties in with Matt's post yesterday on holding our leaders and other groups accountable on foreign policy thread. Unfortunately it is only not limited to foreign policy. For us to take back our country and have organizations like this understand that we the people are watching, is critical in getting them to act and hold our elected leaders accountable.     And that is how we will bring about change...  


McCain issue (0.00 / 0)

See this memo for Common Cause on all the candidates, including McCain: http://www.commoncause.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=dkLNK1MQIwG&b=194883&ct=5054313

 



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ok. (0.00 / 0)
Factual comments about some of what McCain has done (re: public financing in this election), with no editorial comment, followed by the expressed desire that whoever wins will be open to achieving serious reform of the campaign finance system. It's like they're afraid if they openly or vigorously criticize him, he'll suddenly abandon his alleged support for finance reform. That seems to go to the fundamental disagreement. If McCain's support is that weak, the only way you hold him to it is to criticize and hold him to the standards of his reputation, not look the other way.

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Common Cause and McCain (0.00 / 0)
I think Matt and some of the other posters here have made a logical leap that may not be justified by the facts.  It is not entirely clear that McCain has broken any law, rule, or principle (or even the spirit of any law, rule, or principle) by considering opting out of the public financing system.

For starters, the fact that a bank apparently conditioned an earlier loan to him on an agreement to take public matching funds is between McCain and his lender -- if he can convince the bank to modify the loan agreeent, I don't see what's wrong with that.  Otherwise, the bank is free to enforce the agreeent, and that's fine, too.

As for candidates who express support for public financing while electing not to take it during their presidential campaigns, I see no hypocrisy.  If the public financing system provides sufficient resources for candidates to fund their message in a competitive campaign, they should take it, and if not, they should opt out.  Being an aggressive and sincere advocate for campaign reform does not require candidates to sign up to participate in a system that they believe will make it impossible to run their best campaign.  The public funding system for presidential campaigns has been widely recognized as badly in need of shoring up since at least the 2000 election cycle, and McCain (partly at Common Cause's urging and together with Russ Feingold) introduced legislation to make the system more attractive in an era where independent expenditures and mega-bundling have made presidential politics far more expensive than when the system was originally designed.

Common Cause and most of the other good-government groups (Democracy 21, etc.) declined to criticize Kerry for opting out of the public finance system for this very reason, and I see no reason why they should attack McCain or anyone else for concluding that the current system simply does not provide enough funding to beat a candidate unconstrained by spending limits.

As for Obama, it would be nice to see him stand behind his earlier statements that seemed to suggest he would accept spending limits for matching funds on the condition that the GOP nominee would agree to the same terms.  Even in his case, though, it seems like an invitation for "independent" groups to launch Swift Boat-style campaigns against you if they know in advance you are committed to cap your own fundraising.

Ultimately, the presidential public finance system can only work if candidates conclude it helps them run more effective campaigns by limiting the amount of time they have to spend raising dough and freeing up time for other types of campaign activity (like talking to voters and weighing solutions to public policy problems).  It is not about -- and should not be about -- trying to prove you are free of special interest influence (although that is the effect that we all hope for as the ultimate result -- decreased dependence on the rich and powerful as sources of campaign funds.


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RE; er...did I notice that she did not address the current McCain (0.00 / 0)
While I might consider moving back to my father's native Canada (my mom's family was in NY in 1638) if we have another Republican president elected in November, I would withhold my judgment on McCain on this issue until I saw the actual agreement with the bank and, whether, as McCain's campaign alleges, it had an escape clause.  

There almost certainly will be no satisfaction coming out of the FEC which doesn't have its full complement (does it have a quoroum?).  

I find much more damning McCain's duplicity in condemning those who cozy up to special interests or who peddle their influence while doing just that himself.  It's like being a fiery anti-gay crypto-gay legislator or mayor, etc.


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Ban the internets! /nt (0.00 / 0)


Michael Bloomberg, prince of corporate welfare

Hubris (4.00 / 3)
Shorter version: We're important, you're not, so you have no right to criticize us.

I wouldn't give them a forum to defend themselves (4.00 / 7)
After reading your rant about what you describe as Common Cause's "remarkable legacy of failure," my first reaction is to suggest that you might want to talk to your doctor about upping your meds.

I would have stopped reading here. If one can't be civil, one shouldn't be a communications director.


Low (4.00 / 2)
I agree, that was a terrible first paragraph for the response. Possibly even a firing offense for a communications director.

But Matt does invite these sort of things: "That's simply disgusting and dishonorable and they should be ashamed of themselves." That wasn't exactly civil either, and set a poor tone in his original piece.


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Indeed. (0.00 / 0)
If you're going to be uncivil, you can't start having airs because someone is uncivil back to you.

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sorry... (0.00 / 0)
but saying something uncivil, say, calling what someone has said disgusting or dishonerable, is not the same is saying something obnoxious and juvenile. "upping your meds".....? c'mon. this is a charge being mentally unstable, unbalanced, unhinged. that's not a response meant to promote debate, whether civil or not. i stopped reading at that point.

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i disagree completely with the comparison (4.00 / 3)
she used shrill, rhetorical polemic. "rant" and "meds."

he used strong and precise, but correct in polite society, terminology. "dishonorable" and "ashamed."

those two styles aren't really the same at all. she wouldn't say what she said to her grandmother, but he could say what he said to his comfortably.

once again, a blogger is accused of being irrational and overly polemic, when in truth it is the very group receiving the critique that is. classic Village/r behavior. i'll have to go read the original post that got such a rise now. the lady doth protest too much,  methinks.  


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I'm still waiting for her second reaction (4.00 / 1)
And no, she doesn't address the McCain issue.  Which is too bad, because they have done some good work, and if they publicly took the good Senator on now, it could have an impact.

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missing links (0.00 / 0)
The group's statement on McCain (as well as Obama and Clinton) is here.  The post also omitted a link to the Iowa ad she referenced, in which McCain is listed as having no commitment to public financing.

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Weird (0.00 / 0)
. This week, news surfaced about a questionable loan that McCain took for his campaign from a Maryland bank.[2] While complex and unresolved, it appears that McCain used his intention to opt in and out and back in to the partial public financing system as effective collateral for a loan based on how well he did in the primaries. The FEC chair has declared that McCain may not opt out of the primary public financing system. [3]
Common Cause just reviews the facts -- there's an absence of any judgment on McCain as to whether he has behaved honorably or legally.  Why?

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Agreed (0.00 / 0)
It's hard to dismiss bloggers as "shrill" when your first paragraph leads off with that.  As a debating measure, it's also a very poor tactic, suggesting that Stoller hit a nerve.

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Amen (0.00 / 0)
I DID stop reading after that first paragraph, and instead scanned for any kind of substantive response to the central allegations that CC was doing little about McCain. If it's there, I missed it.

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Go easy on the communications person... (0.00 / 0)
I have to defend this. She wanted our attention and she got it. She's got the idea she is jumping into some moshpit  of the ignorant and she tried to play on what she thinks of as our level. She's wrong -- I hope.

I don't like her for her tone, but the matter to criticize in this response, and in the behavior of old line "nonpartisan" advocacy groups in general, is that they have been getting duped for 15 years by right wingers. And mostly they just temporized. Now, when progressives have created organs with which to fight back, they whine.

Can it happen here?


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I did (0.00 / 0)
stop reading there.  It's an attack on the writer, not what was written.  Further, it isn't just saying "you're stupid" and using that as a reason to discredit, it suggests mental illness.


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I was going to write the same thing (0.00 / 0)
"up your meds"

Uh are we in Jr. High?

"you should be ashamed of yourself" might be a bit much, but it is not even close to how common cause started their response.  


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I don't know where to start... (4.00 / 2)
First of all, She uses non-partisan and bi-partisan interchangeably.

Second was this:

Common Cause has limited resources, and the fact that we have not unleashed a legal and public relations attack on every politician you happen to find offensive (Joe Lieberman, Al Wynn, John McCain, etc.) does not make us prisoners of a blind faith in non-partisanship
How much does it cost to issue a press release?  That's all it would take to deflect this type of criticism?

Third, the whole things makes it sound like they are more committed to bipartisanship than committed to an open government.  Open government is the goal, not bipartisanship.


it's a badge (0.00 / 0)
It's kind of amusing to see how the word "bipartisan' is used as a merit badge more and more these days. It's a meaningless, valueless term - bipartisanship can be used for good causes or bad causes - but it is held up like some kind of magical political totem.  

"I think the economic logic behind dumping a load of toxic waste in the lowest wage country is impeccable and we should face up to that."
-Lawrence Summers


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Except That... (4.00 / 1)
Nowadays, bipartisanship can't be used for good purposes.  The theoretical possibility is now impossible in practice and has been for quite some time now.

From a reality-based perspective, "bipartisan" simply means covering for conservative mendacity, either directly or indirectly.

Along these lines, Glenn Greenwald had a post a couple of weeks ago, showing some of the major "bipartisan" votes enabling the Bush agenda.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


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Common Cause: Meds Are The Answer! (4.00 / 1)
Since Common Cause has utterly failed to stem the tide of plutocracy, they have resorted to "Plan B," which is simply to medicate themselves into a state of permanent denial.

And thus, when folks get upset with them, their natural response is to suggest that they, too, need more medication, since actually fixing the fundamental problem is out of the question.

Now, I'm not arguing that an orgnization like Common Cause could have prevented this.  The forces at work are extremely powerful, as I have discussed on several occassions--most recently my "Three Waves and A Wall" series.

But they could have (A) really freaked out about the growth and magnitude of the problem, rather than remaining so damn placid, and (B) drastically changed their organization, so that is was no longer "an orgnization like Common Cause," but something a great deal more confrontational, and pro-active in building broad political alliances in order to acheive real results.

The problem here is that Common Cause has adapted to the hyperbolic growth of the very system it was founded to fight against.  They are hardly alone in this, but that doesn't constitute a defense, merely part of an historical explanation.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


As someone on medication... (4.00 / 2)
This is just really offensive.  Sorry, I have a chemical imbalance in my brain and I need to take a pill once a day.  I guess that means anything I write ever can just be dismissed...

"politics" (4.00 / 1)
As Matt and Chris have emphasized repeatedly, "politics" is  the way stuff gets done. This reply wonderfully demonstrates the impotence of the politics-is-a-dirty-word strategy.

As long as Repub extremists like Bush, McCain, Boehner and McConnell control the party, it just doesn't make sense for a progressive organization to cooperate with any Repub unless absolutely necessary. It wasn't necessary for Common Cause, a purported progressive organization, to appoint Jim Leach to a position of leadership.

Jim Leach is far from ideal but is not the major problem; the major problem is that Jim Leach has no place in the modern Republican Party. And as a previous commenter pointed out, nonpartisanship does not require bipartisanship.



Yes, and things like this also produce (0.00 / 0)
stupidity like NARAL endorsing Chafee over Whitehouse.  Because they don't want to be seen as an arm o fthe Democratic party or something.

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Non-partisan Leach (4.00 / 1)
We are proud to have Jim Leach as our new board chairman. This is a man who, while in Congress, stayed away from partisan confrontations

My earliest memory of Leach was as chair of some committee or other, feebly attempting to grab headlines because he had found the "smoking gun" in Whitewater. He fell flat on his face, obviously, but the point is he was trying to make his name as a partisan gun-slinger in what everyone thought was Newt Gingrich's Washington (everybody remember those five weeks? heady stuff).
Clearly such cheap media grandstanding was not in Leach's nature, he was bad at it, and he was grasping to find a scandal where there wasn't one. But he tried. He may have been better than most Republican congressman of the 90s, but he tried to get ahead by sinking to their level. So forgive me if I don't get all weepy and burst into My Country 'Tis of Thee at the mention of his nobility and non-partisanship.


Try this again-- I found myself agreeing with her (0.00 / 0)


A nice response (0.00 / 0)
I think the response is entirely appropriate. It seems matt doesn't understand the role of organizations like Common Cause.

But that would take working on politics, not just writing about other's failures.


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This Is An Incredibly Ignorant Comment (4.00 / 1)
Matt has been quite involved in working on politics, most recently the Donna Edwards campaign.

This sort of "holier-than-thou" totally uninformed comment is perfectly symptomatic of everything Matt is talking about--and more.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


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The response directly grows out of Matt's original post (0.00 / 0)
It's one thing to say "you can do more" and quite another to say "you've done nothing at all."

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Im familiar.. (0.00 / 0)
I guess i should have rephrased that: the types of successes that come from working on partisan political campaigns (elections) are different than those that are bi-partisan and issue based.

Stoller should know from his work on telecommunications, etc. that blaming and yelling down 50% of the legislature gets you no where fast.


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You Prefer Backwards Slow??? (0.00 / 0)
At least with nowhere fast, you know where you stand.

Otherwise, not so much.

Since Common Cause was founded, the dominance of money and special interests in politics has grown astronomically by any measure you care to use.

Thus, there is a severe mismatch between all your good intentions and reality its own self.

When lectured about the need for bipartisan solutions to such problems, I am invariably reminded of the old Sufi story about Nasruddin looking for his keys under a street lamp, half a block from where he lost them, because the light was so much better there.

Good luck with that.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


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Your metaphor doesn't make sense.. (0.00 / 0)
Do we need 2/3 of the street lights to over-ride the Keys veto?

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It's Not A Metaphor, It's A Parable (0.00 / 0)
about the folly of pursuing solutions that are convenient, rather than effective.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"

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When I first saw the name of this post... (0.00 / 0)
... I thought to myself, "I wonder if they'll respect the claims made or just be condescending?"  I love how she answered my question in the first sentence.

opening line (0.00 / 0)
I've heard that opening line a hundred times in fannish disagreements - didn't expect it to come from someone who's actually getting paid for their words.  Great way to start a dialogue, CC!

you think "remarkable legacy of failure" is dialogue? (0.00 / 0)


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But then what do you say then reality is on your side? (4.00 / 1)
Money, especially money not from those who actually vote, has gotten so completely and thoroughly out of hand how else can you describe the legacy of an organization that has been set up to fight it other than a failure?

I think Common Cause would likely be more effective at fundraising and getting the money it needs to put politicians' fannies to the coals if it admitted how thoroughly it has failed in is goal.  It should acknowledge that its failure to fight moneyed interests requires money.  No corporation is going to be dumping money into an organization who is trying to limit their influence so it is up to the people to make this organization work.

By her own admission, the organization has a legacy of failure not only in stemming the tide of corrupt money in our political system but also in getting the resources necessary to fund the battle.  Why is the organization so financially powerless?  Is it that the people they put into power have a similar vested interest in maintaining the money grab in Washington?  She didn't answer any of Matt's critiques she just attacked the message.

The truth sure does hurt!


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Damn, Ricky! No Fair! You's THINKING! (0.00 / 0)
By her own admission, the organization has a legacy of failure not only in stemming the tide of corrupt money in our political system but also in getting the resources necessary to fund the battle.
 

Ouch!

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


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you think one organization is responsible for this? (0.00 / 0)
That this isn't about the entire country, but one organization? Sorry, that's not thinking. That's speaking in a place with a bunch of people who cheerlead such over the top analysis.  

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Joint and Several Liability, Dude! (0.00 / 0)
Sure Common Cause isn't solely responsible.  Not anywhere near it.  But when you're one of the leading organizations in a political movement that's been pushed dramatically backwards for 35 years, and you simply continue doing what hasn't worked for 35 years, then "failure" is pretty much the only word that applies.

At the very least, there's a failure of vision, and failure to seek new, more effectiv alternatives, even if critical self-examination is too much to ask for.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


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bruhrabbit, 'There are no solutions, give up and get on your knees...' (0.00 / 0)
What a sorry ass concern troll you are!  If this group were a true grassroots organization, then I might have a little more sympathy for their plight and I am sure Matt would have too in his original post.

This is a group that claims it has a real ability to affect change because it is run by insiders and people who are supposed to have the sway to get things done.  They have failed and failed in such a thorough manner that they must admit their failure or admit they have been in collusion all along, because there is little other defense of their legacy.

While I am not a big Obama fan, the one thing he has done is inspired those of us who haven't given up like you to give money. Ok, I haven't given him any money at this point, but 1,000,000 others have and most of those aren't the max donors and corporations that this group is supposed to act as a check on.  I would like Obama a lot better if he was saying his campaign proves that politics can function without big donors and corporate bundlers and in his first 100 days he will introduce legislation that will end this vice once and for all.


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By the way- your comment explains the Obama situation quite well (0.00 / 0)
Basically everyone is looking to blame or prop up a savior.  

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